Subject: Britannia - Differences between AH and Gibson versions
From: John David Galt <jdg@but-i-dont-like-spam.boxmail.com>

Quoth Torben AEgidius Mogensen <torbenm@diku.dk>:
> "Llarry Amrose" <llama@NOSPAM.getnet.com> writes:

>>7.12 states "...but only if all of the surviving raiders return to sea at
>>the end of the nation's turn."

>>7.13 states "...however, if even just one raiding army remains ashore, all
>>of the victory points earned by the raiders in combat that turn are
>>cancelled."

>>Note that 7.13 does not specify 'in THIS combat', merely "in combat".

> I was going to argue with you about this, as all people I have met
> play this on a per-battle basis. However, I then looked in the
> clarifications to the original Gibson Games version and found the
> following example:
>
>          In Turn 4, the Irish Raiders land, one in
>          Cornwall one in Devon.  The Settler moves from
>          Avalon to Devon.  The raider in Cornwall
>          battles the Welsh unit; both are killed.
>          In Devon, the Roman fort is destroyed, and the
>          Settler killed.  The surviving Raider may now
>          either
>
>          (a)  retreat to sea scoring 1 V.P. each for
>               the Roman Fort and the Welsh unit
>
>          (b)  settle in Devon, scoring 2 V.P.'s for
>               occupying Devon, but forfeiting the battle
>               points.
>
> This example is clearly not on a per-battle basis, as the actions of
> the raider in Devon affects the scoring of the (now dead) raider in
> Cornwall.
>
> Now, you may argue that the Gibson Games version is (slightly)
> different from the AH version, so clarifications for the GG version
> need not apply to the AH version. But unless the GG clarifications
> directly contradict the AH rules, I think they should be accepted.
>
> As for differences in the two versions, I can off-hand recall two:
>
>  1) In major invasions, the AH rules state that population limits
>     (one area per two units) apply after the first combat phase, while
>     the GG rules explicitly state that they do not.
>
>  2) When battling mixed infantry and cavalry, the AH rules state that
>     before each die is rolled, it must be stated which type of unit it
>     targets. The GG rules say that you assign them after rolling, so
>     any sixes can be applied to cavalry and fives to infantry.
>
> Does anyone have a complete list of differences?

I don't have the Gibson version, but I have heard of three other
differences.

3)  When population limits cause a unit to be removed, in the AH
version the limit is not checked again afterward (in other words, if
the Jutes have four units in Kent and one in Essex they can remove
only the one in Essex).  In the Gibson version you must have enough
areas after the removals, so two more Jutes would die.  (This point is
illustrated by specific examples in BOTH rulebooks, or so I'm told.)

4)  In the AH version, the double turn that a Major Invasion gives you
applies to all your units.  In the Gibson version, units already on
land don't get the extra turn.

5)  In the AH version, units (either raider or settler) can stay at
sea as long as desired, and if they are raiders they can keep raiding
forever.  In the Gibson version, units can't raid after the designated
raiding turn(s) for their country, and I'm not sure if they can stay
at sea.

John David Galt