Lou Coatney - 01:21pm Jun 6, 1998 PST (#17 of 17) Hey, there, all you "1st Alamein" players, a revision: AR has no (retreating) effect on Commonwealth units which were in a box they are attacking from at the start of their player-turn. AE still has *its* same effect on the eliminated attackers, though. (Think of it like raiding parties coming out, rather than the entire force sortie-ing from the box to mount the necessary attacking pressure ... and then getting annihilated by an AE once they've come out from under their rock.) Lou Coatney, http://members.Tripod.com/~LCoat (FREE "1st Alamein" game and cardstock model ship plans)