From: Joe Balkoski and Joyce Duncan Subject: Re: Victory Games Fleet series There are five board games in the Fleet series. In order they are: 6th Fleet (1985) 2nd Fleet (1986) 7th Fleet (1987) 5th Fleet (1988) 3rd Fleet (1990) There is a computer version of 5th Fleet (1994) that uses an updated game system, the most important change of which is a near-total lack of intelligence about enemy movements unless detection occurs. Furthermore, a Computer 5th Fleet Module was published in 1995, which included 15 new scenarios. A couple of decent articles about the game series were published in The General, including (I think) some new maps. The game system developed and changed a bit over the years, growing slightly more complex. Overall I would rate the complexity as lower than VG's Civil War. 6th Fleet dealt with the Mediterranean, 2nd Fleet with the North Atlantic/Norwegian Sea, 7th Fleet with the western Pacific, 5th Fleet with the Indian Ocean. 3rd Fleet was somewhat unique in that it was actually three separate theaters (North Pacific, Caribbean, Baltic). By the time 3rd Fleet was published, it was growing increasingly difficult for me to design believable scenarios. Nevertheless, the game did well. Overall, the Fleet series was resoundingly successful in terms of sales. For me, it sort of marked the passing of an era. When I first started working on the series it was possible to actually make a living designing the games and living off the royalties. By the time the last game was published, board game sales had dropped so dramatically that it was impossible even to contemplate the type of commitment I had made in the past to game design. If I, in 1997, put in the kind of work on a board game that I had put into the Fleet series in the mid-1980's, my hourly rate of pay after royalties were added up would be much less than minimum wage. The Fleet series combined probably sold 85,000 - 90,000 copies, not counting the computer game. Pretty good. The graphics for the series changed a bit when VG folded in NYC and the staff at Avalon Hill assumed all the artwork. In 3rd Fleet, the maps are painted rather than colored with overlays. The painted maps, in my opinion, are far superior. I think the improvements in 5th Fleet and 3rd Fleet (many of which can simply be added to the earlier games - the CRT, for example) make the game a lot better. I guess we now can view the Fleet series as "historical" games rather than games dealing with the contemporary military situation. In the couple of years since the last board game was published, the US Navy has changed profoundly. It would be fun to do a new, updated game. But will anybody buy it? Sincerely, Joe Balkoski