From: ASIATICUS@AOL.COM Subject: Variant for 30 Years War ( addenda ) 6/14/96 Doug I liked your addition to the 30 Years War game of Russia and the Ottomans. The only problem I have with the Russians is with the original designation of the Ukraine as a Russian province. Prior to 1648 Poland controlled it until Chilminicki's great revolt of Cossacks and Ukrainian peasants with their sometimes Crimean (Ottoman) Tartar allies. This could be remedied by making the Ukraine a PO area with 1 cavalry counter and giving the Russians an off map TP allocation to support the counters from the Ukraine which could be sent to Muscovy. I have also thrown in the Cossaks for fun. My only quible about using the Ottomans as a major power is that they had a series of major internal revolts especially in Lebanon, Anatolia and Mesopotamia, incompetent leadership until Murad took over a long war with Persia to recover Qarabaq, Iraq and Azerbaijan from the great Shah Abbas; ( Murad only recovered Iraq by 1638 when he died). I think that an expanded game should include the Persians as a large minor Power or a Major Power in its own right because they were interested in holding their western gains while expanding east against the Uzbeks and Moguls in Afganistan. If the Turks can handle the Persians and thier internal revolts Additional Rules 6. A Map of the provinces of the Eastern Ottoman Empire and Western Persia should be set up as follows: --------------------------------------------------------------------=------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------=-KALMUCKS--- ----------------------------------------------------------------=----------------------- ------------- MUSCOVY----------------------------------------------= ---SSSSS ==========------------------------------------------------------ SSSSSSSSS-- DON----------=---------------------------------------------------SSSSSSSS------- COSSACKS -=----------------------------------------------------SSSSSSSSS---- Stech*--------================================S-Caspian-SS ==========----DAGHASTAN----------------------------------SSS-Sea-SS Crimea-------=------------------------------------------------------------SSSSSSS SSSSSS------=---------------------------------------------------------------SSSSS Black Sea SSSSSSS^^ ^ ^^ ^ ^^^^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^ ^ ^^ ^ ^^^ ^^ ^^SSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS-----GEORGIA--^-----QARABAQ---------------SSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS-----Tiblisi--*---^------Ervan--*-------------------SSSS Sea SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^SSSS ------------------=--------------------Kars--*---^ ^-----------------------------SS ANATOLIA--=-----KURDISTAN--------^^-------AZERBAIJAN-----SS - *Konya------=----------------------------^^----------Tabriz--*-------------^^ --------------=-----------------------------^^-------------------------------------^^ SSSSSSS ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^ E. SSSS+Iskandrum--=-------------^^------------------------------------------- Med. SSS----SYRIA---=---Mosul *-----^^------------------------------------- Sea SSS----Aleppo-*---= -------------------^^------*--Hamadan-------------- SSSSSSS^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ -----------------^^===================== SSSSSSS--LEBANON--=------IRAQ------^^----PERSIA-------------------- SSSSSSS--Damascus----=----Bagdad *----^^--------Isfahan #---------------- SSSSSSS---------*-------=-------------------^^ ^^ ^^ ^ ^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^ SSSSSS ==========-----=--------------- ^^ LURISTAN----------------- +Alexandria-----=-------------------======SS ^------------------------------- -EGYPT---S=--------------------------------SSS------------Shiraz * ----------- ---*-Cairo---S--------ARABIA--------------SSSSSSS-------------------------- ----------------S---------------------------------------SSSSSSSSS----------------- Red Sea Persian Gulf - open terrain ^^ mountains * fort + fortified port # fortified Capital S sea 7. Independant Minor Powers Provinces CAPITAL / fort TP marshal cav inf militia art. fleet Kalmucks 5 2 - - - - Daghastan 5 2 - - - - Don Cossaks 5 1 - - - - (1)* Stech - 1 - - - - Georgia Tiblisi 5 - 1 - 1 - Arabia - 5 - 1 - 1 - * Cossaks can turn infantry into a fleet to raid across the Black Sea if Ottomans have no fleet in that sea and they are in a province bordering on the sea. Persian Kingdom rules. 1. Persia may be played as a minor power or a major power that begins with 10 TP and 3 DP. 2. Persia in in 1618 would consist of : Provinces CAPITAL / fort TP marshal cav inf militia art. fleet Persia ISFAHAN 10 (Rich) Abbas 2 1 1 - - Hamadan - 1 - 1 - - Luristan Shiraz 5 - 1 - 1 - - Azerbaijan Tabriz 5 - 1 - 1 - - Qarabaq Ervan 5 - 1 - 1 - - Khorasan (off map) 5 - - - - - - total build 1 10 1 10 1 - 3. Abbas is a 2/3 leader. He died in 1629. Following his death the Persian marshal is a 1/1 leader. Ottoman Empire rules 5. Omit original variant rule. Use provincial income per map. 6. Ottomans in 1618 would possess in addition to the areas & troops listed in the variant: Provinces CAPITAL / fort TP marshal cav inf militia art. fleet Anatolia Konia 10 - 1 - 2 - - Kurdistan Kars 5 - 1 - 2 - - Syria Allepo 5 - 1 1 1 - - Iskandrum - - - 1 - - Lebanon Damascus 5 - 1 - 2 - - Iraq Mosul 5 - 1 - 1 - - Bagdad - 1 1 1 - - Egypt Cairo 10 - 1 - 1 - - Alexandria - 1 1 1 - - E. Med. Sea - - - - - 1 7. Additional Otoman counters 8 cavalry counters 1 or 2 strength 3 infantry counters 16 militia counters 1 or 2 strength 1 fleet counter 1 or 2 strength 8. Ottomans roll with a +1 on a die rolls for civil war in Lebanon, Anatolia and Iraq. ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ