Subject: 3w ANCIENTS Army Lists for Biblical and other Near East from 1000-500bc by J.Ehlers From: jdyahoo@aol.com (JD Yahoo) Let's rock and roll (sixes)! Nothing beats a Biblical-scale epic batte that lasts ten minutes (less time than it takes for a can of Dr. Pepper to get warm)! Here's 40-point "DYO" Armies for Biblical and other Near Eastern Armies from 1000 BC to 500BC. I have included possible names for leaders based on actual leaders and approximate dates they lived. ***HEBREWS (to about 700 BC for Israel, to about 600 BC for Judah). KINGDOM of ISRAEL (capital Samaria) and KINGDOM of JUDAH (capital Jerusalem). 4xLI, 2xHI, 2xCH, 1xMM. Possible Leaders: King David of Israel (1035-972 BC), King Solomon of Judah (992-925 BC), King Jehu of Israel (890-815 BC). ***PHOENICIANS (from about 900 BC to about 700 BC). Capital: Tyre. 3xCH, 2xMM, 1xHA, 1xLI. Possible Leaders: King Hiram (999-936 BC). ***ASSYRIANS (from about 900 BC to about 600 BC). Capital: Nineveh. 3xCH, 3xMM, 1xHI, 1xHC, 1xLI. Possible Leaders: King Ashur-Nars-Pal (912-859 BC), King Tiglath-Pilaser III (774-727 BC), King Sargon II (763-705 BC), King Esharhadon (713-669 BC), King Ashurbanipal (692-626 BC). ***EGYPTIANS I have divided the Egyptians into the following groups: **MIDDLE or PRIEST-RULED EGYPTIANS (from about 900 BC to about 700 BC). Capital: Thebes. 3xHI, 2xCH, 1xHA, 1xMM. **LOWER or LIBIAN-RULED EGYPTIANS (from about 900 BC to about 700 BC). 2xHI, 2xCH, 2xMM, 1xLC, 1xHA. Possible Leaders: King Shoshenk (976-914 BC). **NUBIAN-RULED EGYPTIANS (from about 700 BC to about 600 BC). 2xHC, 2xLI, 2xMM, 1xHI, 1xCH, 1xHA. Possible Leaders: Pharaoh Sabaka (761-695 BC). **PSAMTIK'S or FREE EGYPTIANS (from about 600 BC to about 500 BC). 2xPX, 1xHC, 1xHA, 1xLI, 1xMM. Possible Leaders: King Psamtik (693-610 BC), King Necho II (658-595 BC). That should cover Egypt o.k. ***PERSIANS I've divided the Persians into two slightly overlapping eras: **MEDIANS (from about 600 BC to about 550 BC). Capital: Ecbatana. 2xPX, 2xHC, 1xLA. **ACHAEMINIDS (from about 525 BC). Capital: Persepolis. 4xHA, 2xHC, 1xLC, 1xLI. Possible Leaders: King Cyrus (590-529 BC), King Darius (550-486 BC), King Xerxes (520-456 BC), King Artaxerxes (484-425). That's it for Persians. ***BABYLONIANS NEW BABYLONIAN EMPIRE (capital: Babylon!) 2xCH, 2xHA, 1xPX, 1xHC. Possible Leaders: King Nebuchadnessar II (624-562 BC). I hope these lists will be of use to Ancients players, they can modify them to fit their own campaigns or scenarios. I used small, 40-point armies because the main attraction to this game for me is the quick-playing aspect of Ancients, so the faster the battle, the better, in my opinion! -Jason Ehlers, St. Paul, Minnesota, January, 1999. Subject: Re: 3w ANCIENTS Army Lists for Biblical and other Near East from 1000-500bc by J.Ehlers From: jdyahoo@aol.com (JD Yahoo) I should mention the date for New Babylonian army is about 600 BC to about 550 BC. The other information that was not included such as: "Possible leaders for Middle Egypt" was because I didn't find any during my limited research time! J.D. St. Paul, Minnesota, U.S.A. "We can't risk another frontal assault. That rabbit's dynamite." -Attributed to King Arthur of the Britons